Fertility update

Yesterday I had another appointment at the clinic. It was a pretty big day for us yesterday and the first day we were going to get any actual answers about what is/could be causing us difficulties. After 3 years of not knowing anything, I was SO excited for this day to arrive.

As we drove there yesterday morning I started to feel a little sick with nerves. There were SO many possibilities about the news we could get. We could be told that our struggle was “unexplained” or we could be told there were serious problems. We could be told there was an easy fix or no fix at all.. that we could try certain drugs first or that we would have to go straight to the BIG treatments. On top of that, I had to have my physical exam and though I had read quite a bit about it and had read it was nothing to worry about whatsoever, I was nervous because I actually found my last smear pretty horrible. 

We arrived at the clinic just before 9am and waited for my husband to be called in to do his bit (SA). This was his third one and so that wasn’t really a big deal but he was a bit freaked out because the other tests he has done he has done at home – this was going to be done at the clinic and, I mean, even as a woman I can understand that must be weird as hell!! He has since told me all about the room and what was said to him before/after and though we laughed our heads off, I have to admit I am surprised that more men don’t have a mental block. Hubby said that there was a TV in there (for some visual stimulation lol) but he said he didn’t dare turn the TV on because he was petrified the sound would come blaring out and everyone in the waiting room would hear it and know it was him and think he was a perv! LOL. Oh this still makes me laugh now.

We were then meant to wait until 10am for my appointment but annoyingly we were still sitting in the waiting room at 10.30 and I was getting anxious. The waiting room was empty apart from us so I started to panic that they had scheduled us wrong and we wouldn’t end up being seen and then I wouldn’t get any answers agghhh (luckily that didn’t happen). Finally the consultant came to get us and took us into a private room and then asked me to follow him into another room for the exam. Hubby was apparently meant to/allowed to come but clearly freaked out and decided to stay where he was LOL. So off I went.

I have to say, the physical exam was nothing. The worst part about it was the initial inserting of the camera device bit being a bit uncomfortable (not as bad as a smear though) and the rest was fine! I got to watch the screen and the consultant started to talk me through what he was looking at. He told me that I had a “beautiful uterus” which made me LOL and me and the nurse joked about how that is a compliment you don’t get to hear every day (though I suspect she probably does if truth be told). He then told me that there were no cysts or fibroids, no POLYPS, no endo etc. That was great to hear. He then said he was going to count my follicles on one side and he counted 4. I had no idea whether that was good or bad – he said he wanted more. Luckily he then started to find more and ended up finding 9 on one side and 8 on the other. Apparently that is fine. 

He said something about my tubes but to be honest I don’t really know what he was looking for because I have read before that they can’t get a good look at your tubes from an internal ultrasound – who knows. Regardless, all looked good and then we were done and I was able to get dressed and go and join him and my husband in the other room.

I was relieved that bit was over and now excited for the longgggg awaited answers!!

The consultant started by saying to me and my husband that my scan was good and that there were no problems at all. YAY. He then said he had my blood results and that my AMH was fine (I can’t remember the exact number now but it was in the “normal” range apparently. He then said my vitamin D levels were high (which apparently was a good thing) and he said “I don’t know how you have managed that because I am darker skinned than you so mine should be higher than yours”.) He said “what do you do?” and I said I didn’t know, but that I did take supplements – he told me to continue taking them. 

All good so far then.

He then said to my husband “right, you’re up” and he clicked onto his name on his computer and brought up his SA results. As said before, he has had a few so we weren’t worried about his results. He started to talk us through the results and all was good. He then told us the percentage of “normal” swimmers my hub has and we were so happy because the normal is 4% and the last few tests my husband had 2%. Yesterday he had 6% and we were made up because he quit smoking 3 weeks ago and has been taking the conception vitamins and so this felt like real evidence of how hard he had tried AND how much smoking effected things. I was also secretly really pleased because I knew he would really feel good about getting his results up from 2% and below average to 6% and above average – partly for fertility/health reasons and partly for male pride/ego!!!

And so we moved on.. back to me.

The consultant said to me “thyroid” and I thought to myself “I bet there’s a problem”… I was right. Weirdly I was quite happy as he indicated something wasn’t right which I know sounds really odd but I had been hoping for such a long time that the doctors would find something fairly simple wrong with me that could easily be fixed. 

I would explain the ins and outs of my thyroid problem but to be honest I can’t because it is sooo confusing. The short version of the story is that my brain is telling my thyroid to work harder than it should be/needs to and that a particular level for pregnant women/women trying to conceive is no higher than 2 and that mine was nearly 6. Whoa! He then said that he was concerned that the reason for this was an auto-immune disease and so he said he wanted me to have an Anti-TPO blood test. This will tell us whether my thyroid problem is caused from an auto-immune disease such as Graves Disease. Basically my immune system could be making antibodies that attack my thyroid. 

My husband asked if this could be the cause of us not being able to conceive but he didn’t really answer that straight (he tended to talk fast and he did talk to us like we were doctors to be honest – sometimes I had to ask him to clarify things he was saying). The general gist of his response was “no” because personally I still ovulate each month, BUT he said that my thyroid the way it is would not be able to support a baby if I were pregnant and so it needs to be sorted. I asked whether I would need medication for the thyroid issue and he said yes but that the first step was to have the blood test and find out what the cause was.

I have since Goggled the life out of this stuff and actually being pregnant before this is controlled would be pretty dangerous! It says that having Graves disease (or another autoimmune thyroid disease) which was not under control could cause miscarriage, pre-term labour, stillbirth, preeclampsia, maternal heart failure, poor foetal growth. Agghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Totally freaking out about this atm. So obviously this needs to be sorted ASAP.

He then said that it may be worth me having a HyCoSy (test to check my fallopian tubes are clear and not blocked). I was dreading him saying that to be honest because I have heard and read bad things about how painful it is – waaaahhh (yes I know, get over it if you want a baby..). He said he would be very surprised if I had any blockages given my background, lack of pregnancy, abortion or miscarriage and given how healthy my uterus was BUT it was worth checking and also, you can’t have IUI if your tubes are blocked. I told him that we had already paid for this test as part of our package and so I felt it was worth doing (as much as I hate to admit it).

Saying that, I have read that if your tubes are not blocked or even if they have a very tiny amount of tissue in them, this test kinda acts as a bit of a jet-wash and can really help. There are a lot of articles and forums online where women say they struggled to conceive for many years and then had this tube test and fell pregnant that same cycle or a cycle or two afterwards – imagiiinnneeee that!!

The doctor then went on to say that in summary my hub’s swimmers are great, my uterus is great and that we have age and BMI on our side. He said that I have regular cycles and ovulate naturally which were all really good. He said we basically had 3 options:

1)   Continue to try – but he understood that after 3 years, we may want to not wait much longer;

2)   Attempt IUI; or

3)   Attempt IVF.

He then spoke us through the differences between IUI and IVF. He showed us diagrams and photos and spoke about the pain and costs associated with both. To be honest I already knew a fair bit of what he was telling us (again – thanks Google!) but my hub looked completely lost lol. 

He told us that he didn’t think IUI was really that worthwhile for us because of our particular situation (i.e. that there were no obvious problems, thyroid aside). I asked him what the benefit would be and he said (whilst showing us a diagram) that it would mean we had all the very best swimmers (dead/abnormal ones cleaned away) and that they would be inserted via a catheter right up to my tubes meaning they had a much better chance of getting where they needed to go basically. He said the chances of success were between 15-20% for us. 

We then spoke about IVF and he told us about the drugs and injections and how the eggs would be taken out, fertilised (hopefully) and put back in. I asked him how painful each step of that was and he answered. He told us that the chances of success were higher and for us, about 54%. So quite a big difference in terms of success rates. Annoyingly the price difference is quite big too. A round of “natural” IUI (no hormones or drugs) would cost us £1,100. A round of full on IVF would be £5,000 but there are “extras” which total nearly another £1,000 and whilst you don’t need the extras, I think most people probably take them because if you are going to put yourself through this much and spend that much – I imagine you feel you would be mad not to pay the extra and get all the extra help you can. I know others may not feel like that. I don’t know how I feel yet.

We then left the room and went to speak to a nurse about the costs involved in all our different options and then I had the blood test for the thyroid thing and booked in the HyCoSy (tube test) for next week. I then had to do a urine test because they have to check you for chlamydia before they test your tubes. 

And then we finally left with what felt like a gazillion leaflets and A LOT to think about.

I felt happy. Hubby didn’t seem to feel half as happy as me – I wasn’t sure why. Unfortunately hubby had to go to work after and so we both had the rest of the day separate and unable to discuss anything but it gave us time to digest it all a little and I got to speak to T. 

Finally last night we went for a drive and had a chat about it all and we came up with an action plan (I have to have one otherwise I let it totally preoccupy me for days/weeks). Our action plan is:

1)   Get results back re thyroid/auto-immune system disease and sort out medication for that. I need to find out how long the meds will take to work properly – enough that if I were to fall pregnant, neither myself or the baby would be at risk. This is clearly the most important step for now.

2)   Get tube test done next week and find out if tubes are blocked or open as that will help decide future steps.

3)   Once tubes have been jet-washed (and we know they are open (fingers crossed) AND my thyroid has been sorted out – potentially we could try naturally for another few cycles).

4)   Then (if tubes open) try a round of IUI. Despite the doctor telling us the success rates, we feel it would be worth a shot because we don’t have a spare £6k and it would take us a long while to save that amount PLUS once everything else has been hopefully fixed, it might just give us a little helping hand without having to go through the gruelling hormones and injections and egg harvesting etc. We feel it is worth a go even if the odds aren’t fantastic.

5)   Lastly: save for IVF.

I feel quite good today. I mean, there is clearly a lot of stuff to take in and fully understand here and I am slightly concerned about this autoimmune thing. I am nervous about what that could mean if I were to get pregnant but I am relieved that I know the other things are in our favour (no cysts, good sperm, good egg supply etc). It could certainly be worse.

That’s where we are now… I am just being a scaredy-cat about the tube test next week and I will probably Google more things and then wish I hadn’t – clearly I have a Google addiction.

If anyone has been through any of this and would like to leave me a comment, I would really love to hear your thoughts/stories! Anyone with Graves or thyroid issues that has had trouble conceiving or anyone that is/was on thyroid meds and had a pregnancy? Anything really – I don’t have anyone in my “real” life to talk to so I would love a conversation. 

Twink x

16 thoughts on “Fertility update

  1. hey, this is all great news! well, not the Thyroid — but also yes, god to get it sorted! getting it sorted will likely boost your energy/mood, too, so a win on all fronts. I had an IUI — the other benefit is that you can precisely control ovulation and time the insertion (i you opt for this, you;ll go in to be monitored from day 1 of your period to ovulation) so you have the best shot at conception. I got pregnant with twins the first time I tried it!! good luck, twink, this is exciting!!!

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    1. Hey! Omg did you really???? First time? Twins! That’s fantaaaasssstttiiicccccc – congratulations (a little late I know).

      Did you have IUI with natural or with drugs like chlomid?

      We want to try a natural cycle of IUI – i.e. without any stimulating drugs. We know I ovulate so we want to try it that way to reduce the chances of multiple pregnancies (my husband already has 3 kids!), so he’s worried I could fall with quads or something.

      I assume you go in a few times nearing ovulation and then they decide when to do the insertion after a positive opk? Xz

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      1. no drugs! we decided to try once without, and it worked! my twins are identical, which happens spontaneously — we actually triggered ovulation early so only one egg would fall to avoid twins, but it happened anyway!

        so, you go in the first day of your period and they see how things start to develop, and you go every few days after that so they can look at your follicles and see the egg develop. then when they decide one is big enough and the others haven’t matured, they give you a trigger shot (a needle you do at home) to get that egg to fall, and you have the IUI exactly 36 hours later (shot monday at 8pm, insertion wednesday at 8am). no need for OPK, they have been charting internally with an ultrasound to see what’s happening.

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  2. Hi Twinkles! I’m a few steps behind you in the fertility testing process, I have a TV ultrasound scheduled next week. I was wondering how long yours took and what steps you took to feel comfortable during it? I’ve been dreaddding mine.

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    1. Hey!! Lovely to hear from you. Is it just the first vaginal ultrasound as part of the assessment? If so, I absolutely promise you that it does not hurt a bit! Genuinely I was nervous but I find smear tests much more uncomfortable than this. Not to sound too weird but it’s a thin device which they put a condom and lube on and so it’s not like when they use the spectrum in a smear which is quite uncomfortable. The whole thing was done in about 3/4 mins and I promise I was looking at the screen and seeing what the dr was seeing as he spoke me through it all and I was absolutely fine – not an ounce of pain. The only thing I felt was the need to wee bit I always need to wee 😂🤣

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      1. Thanks for the reassurance!! This first test is trying to see if I have endometriosis, and I just got bloodwork done for the thyroid and all the female hormones and stuff so fingers crossed it’s all good. Fingers crossed for you too! 🤞🤞🤞 Thanks for sharing your experience!

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      2. Ah yes it is the test I had then – I promise you it won’t hurt you one bit so don’t panic. I am a wimp too so believe me when I say that haha. I hope all your blood work comes back fine and that you don’t have endo xx

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  3. Although my childbearing years are far behind me, this was interesting to read. I remember how I yearned to be a mother, and the joy I experienced when my dreams of motherhood came true.

    I am currently being treated for low thyroid. A couple of years ago my doctor tested me for the antibodies and discovered that I am a rare bird: I carry the antibodies for both Hashimoto’s and Grave’s disease! Grave’s causes your thyroid to over produce and Hashimoto’s causes your thyroid to under produce. Looking back over my life, I think this explains a lot about my medical history. I am currently taking a thyroid replacement medication, but I have to watch out for symptoms of too much thyroid. It’s a bit like walking a tightrope.

    The good news is that you should feel a lot better, both physically and emotionally, after your thyroid is brought into proper balance. It’s so good that this was found, before you became pregnant! During my third and final pregnancy, my heart rate was often as high as 120 beats per minute, even when I was perfectly still. My body was probably producing far too much thyroid hormone at that time, but I had no idea. It’s a wonder the baby and I both made it!

    Good luck. 💘💘

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  4. I’m so glad you got some answers. It is terribly frustrating not knowing what is going on with your body. Its also good that you have follicles because you don’t have to use donor eggs which should be less expensive.

    My husband had to check his little swimmers in the office twice. He also hated it and did not use any of the motivational tools because he was embarrassed. Men have their own way of dealing with their feelings.

    I’m sitting here with my 5 month old who is my IVF miracle. So success is possible. I wish you all the best!!

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  5. Our journeys are similar. The only difference is that instead of my thyroid I was diagnosed with high prolactin levels and we decided to do IUI because here it was only $700 whereas IVF is $15,000 to $20,000 depending on how many rounds you want included.

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      1. There are other factors. Husband had low sperm count but the clomid that he is on brought the count up and since we have been trying for about five years and do to our age and both having issues we were given a less than 1 percent chance of conceiving naturally. IUI hopefully give us a chance to speed up the process.

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